Essay Chat - page 84

joking, right?

Dec 10, 2010

Your business should be transparent if you don't want to be called a fraudulent writer ;).

This is a joke, right? Microsoft isn't a scam company, but they won't publish every detail of your customer transaction. Confidentiality is a key part of every business, except this one. I will never discuss any element of a customer service interaction barring outright fraud, legal need or customer permission.

clarification

Dec 9, 2010

It's generally not good etiquette to post things about a private business transaction in public. I'll answer your question in e-mail.

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

Good point..

If it's so hard to work independently why don't you join a 'big company' and not worry about the fine print ;).

Fine print is EXACTLY what you worry about with a middle-to-big sized company. Devil you know, really. At least PayPal is not likely to out-and-out screw me,.

Good customer service is not hard. It's staggering that it is so poorly done.

I also do take work from other companies as well, of course, but I'd prefer my business to get off the ground. I know that I am doing good work. I can't say the same for others.

yes...

Dec 9, 2010

That's fair enough, except billing is rather harder to fake or create anew (billing that doesn't charge surcharges). PayPal requires a unique bank account to a unique e-mail in general, for example. But changing my website or e-mail, since I give clients a consistent, actual NAME, would require losing a substantial amount of my word-of-mouth appeal. As a small company, I can't just create clients out of thin air the same way the big companies can, for the same reason you mention that they need to charge more.

I don't see what this has to do with my original argument, either ;) . It is in my best interest to provide good customer service if I want to keep clients coming in. It really is in the best interest of companies to do the same thing, Ukrainian or not.

In fact, it seems to me that a devastating customer service criticism, in terms of hurting my word-of-mouth, is FAR worse to me. Big companies always have the advantage that, no matter how much bad publicity they get, someone will have missed it or won't believe it and will get burnt by them. it can't last indefinitely, but it can last pretty long if you top off on a Google search. Right now, a negative review of me on EssayScam would be pretty highly ranked on my Google search list :) .

If they hire poor writers what can you expect? : )

Basic integrity? :D

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

Anyone could have a bad day, or a misunderstanding or miscommunication on any end.

Right, but for you to change a website or email (if you have angry clients) would take an hour; an established company cannot just change their website and start from scratch when a crazy client or competitor tries to discredit them online. That's why of the reasons companies must charge more (and frankly, considering their cost and liability their prices are on average very low compared to prices of individual freelance writers).

Take Essaywriters.net. Their reputation is non-existent, not because one or two people have a problem with them, but because dozens on one SITE do.

If they hire poor writers what can you expect? : )

bad publicity

Dec 9, 2010

What would you do if you have an angry client, there's no way of avoiding bad publicity ; ).

Ps. Learn to use the quote (first highlight the text and then click on the 'Quote' link).

What a clumsy quote system. Seems to me to lead to double posting far too often.

Anyways, this is a silly argument, as anyone who has done customer service can attest. Anyone could have a bad day, or a misunderstanding or miscommunication on any end. The point is to deal with the 90% of people who are no problem, then work with the 9% who have a complaint but are not unreasonable. The remaining 1% will speak for themselves based on the preponderance of the evidence the other way. Bad customer service misses out on the 9%, worse customer service misses out on the 90%.

Take Essaywriters.net. Their reputation is non-existent, not because one or two people have a problem with them, but because dozens on one SITE do.

I do my absolute best, turn in every contract on time as agreed, do editing up until the due date, etc., to get word of mouth promotion. When an angry customer inevitably posts to, say, EssayScam, I will deal with them respectfully and kindly. That's good business.

I'd say both may be good (even though I'm always confused about papermasters.com VS masterpapers.com, one is probably from Ukraine or something).

If the name is odd in some way, like a non-traditional syntax or order or conjunction, that's probably Ukrainian. Both of these sound okay, but Paper Masters is a little odd.

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

so whats about custompapepers.com and the other site i found papermasters.com whom should i trust more???

I'd say both may be good (even though I'm always confused about papermasters.com VS masterpapers.com, one is probably from Ukraine or something).

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

I'm a small business, I can't afford bad publicity.

What would you do if you have an angry client, there's no way of avoiding bad publicity ; ).

Ps. Learn to use the quote (first highlight the text and then click on the 'Quote' link).

as to who to trust...

Dec 9, 2010

essayscam.org/forum/ . Do a search there. Generally, if you don't get any hits, that's a decent sign. Other than that, I can offer the advice I always give: If the writing of the site is fishy, great in some spots and poor in the next, or if in communication with you they do not write effectively, that's a HUGE red flag. It doesn't matter if they're a scam or not, they are clearly not competent enough to get good writers to write their own advertising material and public relations work. How can they get good writers for your essays?

I am absolutely willing to do such a paper. Send me an e-mail with the prompt and due date and we'll go from there.

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

so whats about custompapepers.com and the other site i found papermasters.com whom should i trust more???

Amonessays, cna you write me a paper in health care marketing

EssayChatDec 8, 2010

i need really some body to help me find a trusted site to have my paper done

At this time of the year most legitimate websites won't take too many rush assignments. Your best luck might be to go with a freelance writer (native English speaker of course). You may post websites that you're considering and maybe some posters will tell you if you're on the right track or not.

to admin

Dec 8, 2010

dear admin
i am not recommending any site, in fact Iam a student and i need really some body to help me find a trusted site to have my paper done , in english "can you recommend for me ,because i got confused searching".

reason for pseudonyms

Dec 8, 2010

"I'm a freelance academic writer
Then, why don't you use your real first and last name in your email, why do you try to remain anonymous. Clients may not like that."

Remember that some writers may still be in school, in graduate or Ph. D programs, or not want this career on their resume. Pseudonyms aren't a bad idea for everyone's sake. And people with real names can rob you just as well...

EssayChatDec 7, 2010

Of course, if you're paying $25-35, there is a very good chance they are hiring master's and Ph. D students. That is a good thing for you, obviously.

It doesn't work that way any more. Scam sites got 'smart' and now to deceive the public they charge about the same as the legitimate sites do -- and it's a win/win situation for them because by charging more they can scam more money out of their clients.

EssayChatDec 7, 2010

but I personally have a base rate of $7.50, though I do get up to around $17.50.

That's a reasonable range. I guess overall you'd get about the same (on average) with some reputable companies, but some people prefer to work for themselves.

reputable rate

Dec 7, 2010

My experience has been that people starting out in the industry often must charge far less. I, for example, have had to charge several people $5 to $7.50 a page just to get them interested since they were so poor. I write well, am not an ESL writer and am nationally published, but I personally have a base rate of $7.50, though I do get up to around $17.50.

To get a feel for the reputability of a site, I always go for the obvious: Do THEY write well? Many sites have nice, professional looking backgrounds, but the moment you read a section that isn't the front page or get an e-mail from them, it is full of broken English, misspellings, grammatical errors, etc. Further, if their writing just seems hackneyed or uninteresting, how can they write a good paper for you?

Of course, if you're paying $25-35, there is a very good chance they are hiring master's and Ph. D students. That is a good thing for you, obviously.

EssayChatDec 7, 2010

any body had an experience

If you try to spam, do it in English. Your message shows what students may expect when they order from the site you recommended.

trusted site

Dec 7, 2010

i have passed across the forum of essayscam , they have a list of site which are fraud and not recommended , but can somebody recommend me a trusted site. i have my assignment that needs to be done , so please help me

essay

Dec 6, 2010

well they have companies house registration numbers and local phone numbers. Since they have different reg numbers and the phone numbers of different cities they cannot be the same.

EssayChatDec 6, 2010

3 british companies

How do you know they are British and I'm not even sure if they are not the same companies ; )

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

But then why do these companies work with 'shaky writers' in the first place?

Two things-sham registration processes and the desire to find cheapest writers.For that reason, most writing transactions are usually based on trial and error, more like Russian Roulette.

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

Can we get a list of sites that ARE reputable?

http://EssayNews.com tends to feature legitimate companies.

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

Freelancercareers.com

Do you know where they are located? Either way, if you are an ESL writer they may work for you but don't expect good rates, maybe a few $ per page...

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

OR at least what reputable sites charge per page?

It's hard to tell because scam sites have started to charge more so that it looks like they are not scam (at the same time paying the same low rates for their ESL writers). But $25-$35 per page (300 words) should be a good guess. It may also depend if the order is rush or not (if rush most sites charge proportionally more per page).

freelancercareers.com

Dec 5, 2010

Anyone have any experience in dealing with them? I'd like to know if they don't pay on time or rip you off before I go too deep.

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

Can we get a list of sites that ARE reputable? OR at least what reputable sites charge per page?

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

Most companies have a tendency of holding money belonging to writers so as to protect themselves against future disputes.

But then why do these companies work with 'shaky writers' in the first place? :)

EssayChatDec 5, 2010

Why, does one of the essay writing companies owe you any money for your writing service? :) Right on the money. Academic-research is yet to pay me for my services, the dues are way over $ 1500. I have given up on them.

How long has your money been pending? Most companies have a tendency of holding money belonging to writers so as to protect themselves against future disputes. The more shaky your writing looks, the longer the time they will want to hold on to your money. I am not defending Academia-Research but it is nice to be honest because most of them end up paying, anyway.

i had good luck with fixmypaper.

Dec 5, 2010

i had good luck with fixmypaper.

what happpened

Dec 4, 2010

what happened? why isn't academia-research not paying you? how long have you been a writer there?