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Professor Verb  EssayChatDec 16, 2012
I will pay the writer after the work is marked.

That's like eating a watermelon before you decide to pay for it.
Sindra_john  

scammer from australia

Dec 16, 2012
jessica smith(smithjessica342@yahoo.com) ---a scammer from australia

Lives in Sydney.... Even knows where she studies... Would expose her ass off
Kelli  

reply: jessica smith(smithjessica342@yahoo.com) ---a scammer from australia

Dec 16, 2012
Thank you for your posting, I got a weird vibe from her as well. I told her I insisted on upfront payments; however, she proposed I sent her the first five hundred words of the paper before payment. I told her that I take upfront payments due to being scammed. I'm glad I didn't waste my time on a scammer. Be aware!!! It's sad that the writers are more scared of being scammed than the students.
JohnsMom  

what's going on?

Dec 16, 2012
Writers: Stop delivering work without payment. You have absolutely no way to enforce payment after you've sent the work, and not other business in the world operates by delivering first and simply hoping they get paid. Offering delivery before payment is a mark of desperation and it's going to get you scammed.

Customers: No experienced and qualified writer will promise delivery before payment. Anyone doing this for more than a year knows how easy it is to get scammed this way. Look for writers using legitimate payment services with good fraud protection and pay using a credit card with a high level of customer service/protection, and you'll stay safe while getting much higher quality work.

Karen/Critical Proof: I know at least two companies that pay their writers 50-70% of the fees collected and even higher for orders that are more difficult, resulting in payouts no lower than $12/pg and as high as $25+/pg. Still lower than a good writer can command working directly with clients, but not nearly the extreme difference between client payment and writer pay that you insist is necessary to remain profitable.

People in general: Stop bickering and making unwise choices/accusations/defenses out of desperation. It gets old quickly.
goandget  

do it in a few steps

Dec 13, 2012
stop the 'delivery before payments'

you can also do it in a few steps where you send the first portion you get paid, send the second portion you get paid, and if you got burned at the last portion it won't hurt. The second thing is if there is a way to make these fradulent writers write a short paragraph on any simple topic within the hour so that they won't get time to have it written by anyone else, because it's really easy to tell they can't write. No one is against those who can do the job well, except that they don't have to sell their service so cheap.
ENTERO  

to all writers: stop the 'delivery before payments' approach

Dec 13, 2012
if you really want to get scammed, send a paper to a client before payments are concluded.
This site has been invaded by very clever fraudulent students who will simply scam you and disappear.
Don't send a paper to a student before full payment is completed.
Resellers  EssayChatNov 30, 2012
I hope writers realize that the majority of posts asking for help writing papers do not come from the actual clients but from fraudulent scammers. These scammers are trying to resell orders they cannot complete because they are not qualified. And since they take 70% of what was paid, they expect writers to work for peanuts.
Julian Evanson  

essay writing and free essays

Nov 30, 2012
Since 2003, UKEssays.com has been the leading provider of custom written essays, dissertations and coursework.

We also have a free resources section that contains free essays and dissertation examples plus many other useful tools and references.
CollegeReports  EssayChatNov 28, 2012
my e-mail is d_bee77/at/hotmail.com

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blogger  

the new essay writing scam

Nov 21, 2012
They will ask you a draft or a 500 words sample writing on a subject, so that they can show it to the customers, take their money and send them their Kenyan essay or they could even disappear. Watch out!!!
WILLIAMS  

new scammer

Nov 20, 2012
be aware of Ouma Washington-OUMAWASHINGTON@GMAIL.COM from Kenya he just scammed me
pam  EssayChatNov 18, 2012
raymond the scammer

we will pursue him and let him pay for his criminal activities #raymondcode@gmail.com
sullivan  

raymond the scammer

Nov 18, 2012
Publish the report on-line..... He is a big scammer from Kenya
blogger  

you might be right

Nov 17, 2012
Why do they do it? To see the difference? Vive la difference, although they are much better than the Nigerians who are sending out their scam letters if they see your email here.
noname  EssayChatNov 17, 2012
Warning!! Some "clients" requesting help with assignments and essays are Kenyan companies and writers. Be very careful, they have flooded this chat and essayscam forum.
UCLC  

some have what it takes

Nov 14, 2012
There is no way in hell they can write any coherent argumentative essay on Thomas Theorem, Social Construction of Reality, division of labor, serotonin and whatnot.

You're right there old English, except that some of them still meet the requirement somehow, showing you that when I say 'level', it isn't only the language. When you look at it, it's an amazing mix, because the best essay writing sites are also run by non-English speaker. If you spend some time reading that site www.essayscam.org/Forum, you'll come to know who own those sites, where all students are flocking to part with their money, because it's more or less a controlled industry. Probably, if you search for "essay writing companies" all the sites you'll find can lead you to two or three companies run by non-native speakers. The hot button had been having a knack to come up with attractive and believable sites and the rest is money-making, hard work, and anxiety since there're dry seasonal spells too. It isn't different from the dot-com mania, since these owners are also young people from everywhere, with some smarts they acquired when they were students, because they were using such services run by decent folks from North America and the UK. When they finished their school, mostly in Western universities and colleges, they went into business for themselves. They know what it means to be non-native speaker, the reason why they are serving that population, from the bottom of their heart. Like I said it earlier, they also put up with native speakers, because they still can trap not knowing native speaking clients that could demanding about the end product they are getting. So there you have it, it'll always remain to be a vicious circle. I am not acrimonious about anything, except that for native speakers, the pie is much smaller at around 20%.

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noname  EssayChatNov 14, 2012
the level of their English is similar to the writers originating from Pakistan, Kenya etc, who also have some level of education, such as completing college in their own country.

As I told before, it is not just the level of English. There is a reason why some random villagers from Kenya or Pakistan are not accepted to the North American and European universities and colleges. Their educational level is so low that most of the time they do not even understand the assignment, let alone are capable of required research and argumentation. There is no way in hell they can write any coherent argumentative essay on Thomas Theorem, Social Construction of Reality, division of labor, serotonin and whatnot. They can however write an essay on "What I did last summer" but then again who would even pay for that??
UCLC  

the main problem with kenya, pakistan, etc writers...and clients need to recognize it

Nov 12, 2012
One simple point you missed is that even if these students attend universities located in North America, Europe, Australia and NZ the level of their English is similar to the writers originating from Pakistan, Kenya etc, who also have some level of education, such as completing college in their own country. Because of that, the final product will look like theirs, which is a simple logic if you look at it and the reason why you can't write off the work of these writers. They have more demand and acceptance among the non-native speakers that are around 80%, and of course native speakers can't stand them.
ProfessorVerb  

"too much business"

Nov 12, 2012
I currently have an overflow of orders, and it's been like that for years. Cannot take any more orders even though my clients beg me to help.

A friend of mine who helped establish this industry in the 1990s, Mike Von Plato, once told me, "If you have too much business, you aren't charging enough." He was a smart guy.
Philantropy  

measured response

Nov 12, 2012
There is some truth in what you're saying although your English sounds like the old English that had been discarded around the 10th century in England. (It's just a hunch, I am not a history buff)

I love you. You criticize and dismiss my articulacy and diction as old and discarded, not that you YOURSELF have a poor vocabulary. I have no doubt in my mind that you are one of the kind of foreign writers which I identified. Classic example of what I'm talking about. Even that link you posted below this is littered with grammatical errors and clunky prose. Hilarious as it tries to defend foreign writers when it's so poorly written!

Cheers!

That is not fooling anyone.
UTLC  EssayChatNov 11, 2012
There is some truth in what you're saying although your English sounds like the old English that had been discarded around the 10th century in England. (It's just a hunch, I am not a history buff) Anyway, one problem you don't understand is there're times students won't have time. Almost 80% of the students who are requiring assistance are non-English speakers that will also find the subject matter difficult, but they have to pass the exam. Because of that, your kind of English has no place even among native speakers, because it isn't difficult to tell you can't write an essay. Writing an essay is by itself an art and it requires some level of intelligence and hard work since most of the time you've to start from scratch. The only thing you're right about is about the rip-off companies that are charging up to $20 a page and pay writers from Pakistan and Kenya godforsaken $2-$3, because when they exchange it to their currency it's a lot of money. They tell you that themselves. The other reality is, because of the 80% non-native clientele, those that have high demand are writers from Pakistan, Kenya and the like, because they are at the same level with the students that are more comfortable with their writing style than an educated, articulate native speaker. The only problem is native speaking students meet these writers from Pakistan and Kenya. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with what goes on other than both customers and writers are duped by high charging companies that don't share what they earn fairly with the writers. It's a vicious circle and what sites like this one serve is they can be go-betweens. It will be possible for writers and customers to deal with each other and a customer that would have paid $20 for a page can get away say with $10 and a writer that would earned only between $2 and $5 could make around $10, which is a reasonable compensation, especially for those who live in countries the cost of living is high. To make this work, there has to be some integrity. Cheers!
Philantropy  

advice for anyone seeking a quality essay

Nov 11, 2012
I have never come across such a vile industry as the online money-for-essay ********. Is has zero credibility as a result of the unethical and destructive marketing practices by both legitimate essaywriters and fraudulent websites. Both spend an unreal amount of effort creating defamatory and slanderous comments against anyone who isn't them; and then get incredulous and aggressive when they receive exactly the same treatment. You're like locusts, destroying everything you touch to feed. The putrid parade of fetid excrement that is continually shat out of non-English-speaking countries run by dishonest men has disemboweled the online industry. Pretty much every essay-website on the internet is a scam that will overcharge you and then subcontract your request to an unqualified underpaid writer who doesn't care what grade you get and I promise you the despotic criminals who manage these websites care even less. That's why there's a continuous production of new websites to keep trapping the clients once a fraudulent website is outed. You think there are hundreds of qualified lawyers out there tripping up over themselves to earn $300 by writing your essays for you? The reality is that these people are far too busy doing their own pointless nonsense to help you out. Engineers - how many people do you think have the requisite intelligence, experience and time to write your papers for you? The people who write these things for you are the people with none of the qualifications and quite often none of the literacy. The only practical purpose of these bickering swarming rats is to act as one giant flashing red ******* flag. If you want to have a quality essay that you know covers the detail you need, the only way to be sure is to do it yourself. Obvious advice but surprisingly people need to part with their money before they heed it.
ProfessorVerb  

paypal refund policy for custom research

Nov 11, 2012
I use PayPal for payments hence you can get your money back easily.

It is my understanding that PayPal views custom research projects as "intangible goods" and therefore are not subject to refunds (I may be wrong but I don't think so). This has never come up with me...
ProfessorVerb  EssayChatNov 9, 2012
Here's some typos I found:

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I can help with the spectrum of educational levels, including: Mater's Degree"

"Clients [sic] interests are put first."

No charge.
Anonymous Writer  EssayChatNov 6, 2012
I've also been the victim of theft, having delivered completed work and received no payment following delivery. It's happened three times now, two of which were long dissertation orders.

I'm now running a system where I send short sample sections of the work through to the client once the work is finished. If the client is happy with the short samples, they make payment and I send the whole text upon receipt of payment.

It's a shame I've had to resort to doing this, but I'm not prepared to be tricked again.
Bonface  EssayChatNov 5, 2012
But if you continue with this behavior of stealing from people you will die!

This is true, I have been a victim. I have done several assignments and some of these people just disappear with the work and there is nothing you can do. All writers out there, either insist on some upfront to act as surety or ask them to pay in full if possible. Do not blindly deliver your work to some of these people. However, if a student disappears with the work, you can upload the document on google docs so that when it is scanned for plagiarism it returns 100%. This should be a last resort measure if the student has completely refused to return your emails or pay for the job. Hope this helps
cafe85  

warning: insist on payment before deliver

Nov 5, 2012
fellow writers make sure you get paid first before you send the completed job to customer if you want to be safe. If they don't trust let them through companies. Some of them are fraudsters they demand you deliver work then they disappear without sending you the money.
This is not just unethical but also theft. You have damaged the trust that has been there for a long time because of greed and petty fraud. May God bless you and pass your exams. But if you continue with this behavior of stealing from people you will die!
cafe85  

prices of kenyan writers are not real

Nov 4, 2012
My fellow writers from Kenya why are you coming up with such ridiculous prices! How can a customer be assured of quality paper when you charge as low as $5 a page while others charge up to $40 a page. This is not a place to demonstrate your frustration and incompetence.
Peter  

give me an opportunity to prove that i am your best option for assignment help - contact me directly!!!!

Nov 3, 2012
If you have any questions about my work, my ethics, or my track record, please feel free to contact me directly and I'll be glad to answer any of your questions to prove my worth and actual reputation as a stand up writing service! The majority of my business comes from repeat customers, and if I was truly scamming people I certainly wouldn't have lasted this long using only one email address and my true name. I understand that this is a competitive business, but I only aim to please the few customers that I earn, and am proud to say that I have done so for 100% of my customers thus far. I was even so lucky as to have a customer happy enough to post an honest and thankful review of my work here on Essay Chat a few days ago. As always, I'm honest, fair, and do everything I can to please each and every customer I'm lucky enough to help with their course work. If you need help with an assignment of any type, please email me, and I'll be happy to discuss helping you. I'm also now offering to Skype directly with any potential customer so that you can put a face to my name and see me first hand to prove that I am who I say I am.

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peter(dot)vincer(at)gmail(dot)com


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