Essay Chat - page 83

EssayChatDec 15, 2010

Well, I understand the difficulty of working under deadlines, but frankly, there's no (paid) writing where you DON'T do that.

Thank you for encouraging words. I think I must get used to strict deadlines; I realized when I don't think about deadlines it goes pretty much without stress; but when I start thinking about deadline I get stressed again :) I just need to start writing, I think I'll join essaywriters.net, even if they won't pay me I'll have some professional writing experience ;).

stress management

Dec 15, 2010

I try to protect unsuspected students from scams, that's all ;)> But I can still be helpful with other stuff if needed.

Fair enough. Still, it was an unnecessary paranthetical :) .

I haven't; I like poetry but I just hate to write when I HAVE to. If I don't have to write there's no stress for me and writing comes much quicker and more natural. But with school assignments professors aren't willing to work on students' schedules, unfortunately ;). Reading helps me grasp my ideas better too.

Well, I understand the difficulty of working under deadlines, but frankly, there's no (paid) writing where you DON'T do that. The beauty of the industry, though, is that you can take contracts whenever you wish, so it will match your schedule. Stress management just comes with the profession.

EssayChatDec 14, 2010

If you haven't tried your hand at a short story or a poem or a law memo, do it.

EssayChatDec 14, 2010

Why are you here?

I try to protect unsuspected students from scams, that's all ;)> But I can still be helpful with other stuff if needed.

why are you here?

Dec 14, 2010

Like hiring someone to write for you?: :)

Richie: She was asking how she could be better at essay and research writing, possibly for writing others' papers and entering the industry. I replied with useful advice, you replied with trolling. Why are you here?

EssayChatDec 14, 2010

Of course there are many other tricks

Like hiring someone to write for you?: :)

write.

Dec 14, 2010

What do you do to be a better writer, do you read anything specific? How shall I become a better essay/research writer? Is writing the only way of becoming a good writer?

Write.

Of course there are many other tricks, but writing is the #1 way to get better at writing. If you haven't tried your hand at a short story or a poem or a law memo, do it. Practice your craft and you'll discover weaknesses.

Aside from that, you do need to keep current with your field. You don't know what you don't know, and when you go into writing something, you'll find it hard to get caught up. If you're doing something in a new field, read an introductory paper, or look at syllabuses on the topic and see if the same article gets mentioned several times. If the same article keeps coming up, it's obviously very important. So keep reading.

There are numerous other tricks (read handbooks on composition, learn your basic fallacies and logical reasoning skills), but yes, writing really is the best way.

working on becoming a better essay writer

Dec 14, 2010

Amon

What do you do to be a better writer, do you read anything specific? How shall I become a better essay/research writer? Is writing the only way of becoming a good writer?

i've been very patient

Dec 14, 2010

You contradict yourself. Previously you said you're 'talking with students' - talking about what, how to cheat so that they are not caught? The more I read your posts the more I think the only thing you care about is money, not the law or students future.

I wouldn't want to go into the exact parameters of what I discuss with clients since that's against my confidentiality policy. Suffice it to say that I try to go beyond the disclaimer and make sure that they're learning from the papers I provide, that their writing skill improves, etc. I like to have a long-term relationship with clients for this very reason: I can see the effect my business has on their lives.

(That'd also be "students' futures").

You can think that if you'd like, but I've been more than cooperative on this forum for open abuse. Meanwhile, you don't talk to, say, writer233 or any of the other freelancers on this forum. Suffice it to say that you have no EVIDENCE for that inflammatory assertion, since to make it would require having concrete evidence of my actions which you don't have, and I am done being maligned by anonymous faces with nothing to lose. This is a forum to discuss essay work. If you don't like it, don't be here. I deliver a quality product, on time, deliver refunds when they are warranted, and work very hard. There are many other industries where they can't say that.

EssayChatDec 14, 2010

They tell them not to with a disclaimer. That's about it.

silly question

Dec 14, 2010

The question is, how do you discourage students from trying to submit your example essays as their own?

How does Target discourage people from getting high off of paint? They tell them not to with a disclaimer. That's about it.

EssayChatDec 13, 2010

Amon Giralda

The question is, how do you discourage students from trying to submit your example essays as their own?

legitimate?

Dec 13, 2010

Legitimate companies and writers clearly state they refuse working with students who are thinking of submitting the model essays as their own.

Why? If I paid for a paper off JStor and used that as a model or a source, that's legitimate. The ONLY thing that is the business of the college is if someone is submitting work that is not their own, and even still that is itself arguable.

I absolutely do care about both integrity and education. I speak extensively with students. As I note in my disclaimer, the essays are sample papers and for educational and entertainment purposes only. I also make sure to the best of my ability that my clients understand the logic of why I made the arguments I did, the sourcing and the logic behind that, etc. But even if I didn't, that doesn't make me "illegitimate". We provide a service for paying customers. I provide that service on time and on budget. Nothing else matters...

EssayChatDec 13, 2010

the Professor doesn't care if you paid or not for the article.

He does.

Still, it seems you don't care about students integrity and their education. Legitimate companies and writers clearly state they refuse working with students who are thinking of submitting the model essays as their own.

not my point

Dec 13, 2010

But you can do it for free (ie. look up an article) : )

Yes, but the Professor doesn't care if you paid or not for the article.

EssayChatDec 13, 2010

But you can do it for free (ie. look up an article) : )

really?

Dec 13, 2010

even the notion that using a sample is somehow better or morally superior is ridiculous. no professor at a legitimate institution would approve of the use of a paid for sample. buying terms papers is somewhat unethical. but is it really a moral travesty? of course not.

Really? It's no different, really, from going online and looking up a similar article or essay and using that as a model...

EssayChatDec 13, 2010

Someone using the essay for a sample, then, should show their work based OFF the paper to their Professor and make sure it's right.

okay...

Dec 12, 2010

Okay, but this disqualifies you from doing this job, you condone plagiarism.. and that's illegal.

It's actually not illegal except for occasional jurisdictions like Massachusetts. It is against college ethics boards, but those do not have the force of law. That having been said, that is a concern. Someone using the essay for a sample, then, should show their work based OFF the paper to their Professor and make sure it's right.

EssayChatDec 12, 2010

Show it to your Professor and make sure that it works for the class.

anyone that reads and posts on this site and works in this industry is well aware what these essays are being used for. trying to take some sort of moral high ground is quite honestly ridiculous and absurd.

EssayChatDec 12, 2010

Show it to your Professor and make sure that it works for the class.

Okay, but this disqualifies you from doing this job, you condone plagiarism.. and that's illegal.

EssayChatDec 12, 2010

These guys are promoting.

It would be fine if they were just 'promoting' but they are spamming all over the place with their broken English. Disgusting spammers.

seems like...

Dec 12, 2010

Hey there i use the services of academiasolution.com they are trustworthy you can give them a try

These guys are promoting. They e-mailed me, a separate business, which doesn't inspire much confidence. (How dumb do you have to be to e-mail a COMPETITOR with spam?)

http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9/some-facts-academiasolution-com-2055/ , to their credit, is the only EssayScam thread I see about them, and it has no specific complaints of bad treatment of writers or not turning in quality work. But this is clearly a sock puppet, and I wonder why they can't just promote here or on EssayScam directly instead of through sock puppets...

replied

Dec 11, 2010

Failed: It hit my spam filter :) . I've replied.

thanks

Dec 11, 2010

Thanks for your reply Amon - some good tips there.

Upon further review, though, I'm very wary of going with any large site now and would rather do things on a one-to-one basis. I emailed you at the address on your site last night, so drop me a line when you have the chance :)

well...

Dec 11, 2010

I think I'm legitimate, and have some good policies to guarantee this to the company ;) .

Some degree of trust will be required. If they can get you writing samples, FROM THE WRITER IN QUESTION, that look good, that's a good start. If the correspondence from the website looks professional, that's also good. If the website has bad writing, even if it has a professional veneer, that's a warning sign.

I'd just say make your deadline SUBSTANTIALLY before you get the paper. Show it to your Professor and make sure that it works for the class. Proofread it yourself. If it looks good, that's fine. You do have the problem that you don't know what you don't know, but at least this way you can make sure it looks good.

If it doesn't match their quality control promises, start a trackback on your order and demand a refund. It's worth the try, at least.

damn, just got scammed.

Dec 11, 2010

Ha, I am quite a tech-savvy person, but with deadlines and all, I guess I didn't take a thorough enough look into the company. Never done anything close to this before, and never even thought its a big enough industry to support such a huge netword of scammers. Depressed as hell, and out $90 now...guess it could be worse. :/

Problem now, is that I'm crazy paranoid of any site and/or person offering writing services, but I still need it done! :) EssayScam.org scared the #### out of me, and Google search/ads is what got me into this mess.

I guess my question is *how* can I find a legitimate service? Anyone?

just've seen...

Dec 10, 2010

What do you mean?

Some things that I find pretty amazing. That's all.

Problem is I'm getting tired of it, my eyes and head hurt too often. How to deal with that? Drop agencies or clients? I like agencies as I don't have to worry about marketing but working with clients is more rewarding (not only by dollar standards). Some companies allow to work directly with clients but many don't.

That's what I'd say. You could also send work to people.

i write for 6 essay agencies :)

Dec 10, 2010

Is there anyone else who has more freelance accounts? :) I do projects for some of my clients too.

Problem is I'm getting tired of it, my eyes and head hurt too often. How to deal with that? Drop agencies or clients? I like agencies as I don't have to worry about marketing but working with clients is more rewarding (not only by dollar standards). Some companies allow to work directly with clients but many don't.

"except..."

Dec 10, 2010

By except, I mean "ESPECIALLY". Wow, Freudian slip, huh? ;) I really am astonished by some of the confidentiality behavior in the industry.