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WRT  

list of the sites to avoid

Dec 26, 2010
Richie is right - the `iffy' companies have upped their prices.

WritersBeware has listed the companies to avoid multiple times. Please read her posts.

This one is very important: http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9/list-helpful-threads-writersbeware-1710/

Others (search strings)
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/index.php?phrase=bestessays&searchType=0&whe re=1&forum=&action=search&searchGo=1

http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/index.php?phrase=masterpapers&searchType=0&w here=1&forum=&action=search&searchGo=1
Richie  EssayChatDec 26, 2010
Warning: pay cheap and you will get crap.

That was true a few years ago, but now the frauds tend to have about the same prices as legitimate sites despite they offer their writers peanuts per page...
Amon Giralda  

thank you...

Dec 25, 2010
For the rec, WRT! I hoped that writing well would be noticed. I agree with his entire list, by the way: All those listed clearly know their way around the Internet, know how to research, know how to make an argument and cite it and support it, etc. You (almost) can't go wrong with people who can write well on a forum.
WRT  

since recommendations are allowed ...

Dec 25, 2010
As a company, we do not believe in shilling or self-recommendations. We do well enough by word of mouth. However, I've noticed that a lot of mediocre writers and less-than-credible companies are spamming this board. Customers are, therefore, understandably confused. To clear up this confusion, I will list credible companies and writers (just so you know I am being straight here and have no other motive than to participate in the removal of the scammers from this industry and am not fishing for clients or shilling for our company, I am listing COMPETITORS):

Companies:
CustomPapers
Ukessays and any of the AA sites

Writers you can contact via the board
Freelancewriter
Pheelyks
Amonsessays
Jwolfe

I will be adding to this list as it is not exhaustive.

Companies you really need to stay away from:
Masterpapers and all its sister sites
Bestessays and all its sister sites

Posters you need to ignore - Dan's various usernames, expertwriter, stu4 (aka STUpid) etc

Posters you need to focus on and take really listen to: WRITERSBEWARE and MAJOR.

Warning: pay cheap and you will get crap.
Amon Giralda  EssayChatDec 19, 2010
There is a comment (but probably posted by a shill member who owns that site)

I meant no comments of value or note. I personally don't count someone asking about a service that might be a shill as being an actual comment. And, IMHO, one or two accusations is not enough to dismiss a company entirely.
Amon Giralda  EssayChatDec 16, 2010
Thanks, that's exactly what I'm thinking to do. But I don't know much about web design and promotion so until I learn it I have to stick with companies. But still I think I could 'spam' my email and then I don't need any website for clients to contact me directly, I hope :)

Get a friend who knows how to make a webpage, web hosting is extremely cheap. And Craigslist does marvels. Aside from that, look up "free classifieds" and "free advertising".
Meya  EssayChatDec 16, 2010
Thanks, that's exactly what I'm thinking to do. But I don't know much about web design and promotion so until I learn it I have to stick with companies. But still I think I could 'spam' my email and then I don't need any website for clients to contact me directly, I hope :)
Amon Giralda  EssayChatDec 16, 2010
Do you write for yourself only or also for essay agencies? I'm thinking to start writing for myself only but it's hard to get new clients so I'm trying to go as a freelancer with some companies.

I write for myself only, but some subcontractors do work elsewhere. What I've found is that if you promote well and get word of mouth circulating, really hit the ground running, you get a growing body of clients. Then you can use work from the big sites to fill out your time when you're in a down season.
Meya  EssayChatDec 16, 2010
I have avoided having interactions with them

Do you write for yourself only or also for essay agencies? I'm thinking to start writing for myself only but it's hard to get new clients so I'm trying to go as a freelancer with some companies.
Amon Giralda  

no?

Dec 16, 2010
Won't essaywriters.net pay me anything? : )

I can't say personally because I have avoided having interactions with them. But certainly, where there's smoke, there might be some fire, and with EW.net, there's Native American smoke signals that say "Here be fire".
Meya  EssayChatDec 15, 2010
Try looking for places that will actually pay you.

Won't essaywriters.net pay me anything? : )
Amon Giralda  

good idea

Dec 15, 2010
Thank you for encouraging words. I think I must get used to strict deadlines; I realized when I don't think about deadlines it goes pretty much without stress; but when I start thinking about deadline I get stressed again :) I just need to start writing, I think I'll join essaywriters.net, even if they won't pay me I'll have some professional writing experience ;).

The best way I've found is to make a deadline for yourself that is two days at least before the actual deadline. Then you can work whenever you want and even if you're "late" you're not.

Try looking for places that will actually pay you.
Meya  EssayChatDec 15, 2010
Well, I understand the difficulty of working under deadlines, but frankly, there's no (paid) writing where you DON'T do that.

Thank you for encouraging words. I think I must get used to strict deadlines; I realized when I don't think about deadlines it goes pretty much without stress; but when I start thinking about deadline I get stressed again :) I just need to start writing, I think I'll join essaywriters.net, even if they won't pay me I'll have some professional writing experience ;).
Amon Giralda  

stress management

Dec 15, 2010
I try to protect unsuspected students from scams, that's all ;)> But I can still be helpful with other stuff if needed.

Fair enough. Still, it was an unnecessary paranthetical :) .

I haven't; I like poetry but I just hate to write when I HAVE to. If I don't have to write there's no stress for me and writing comes much quicker and more natural. But with school assignments professors aren't willing to work on students' schedules, unfortunately ;). Reading helps me grasp my ideas better too.

Well, I understand the difficulty of working under deadlines, but frankly, there's no (paid) writing where you DON'T do that. The beauty of the industry, though, is that you can take contracts whenever you wish, so it will match your schedule. Stress management just comes with the profession.
Meya  EssayChatDec 14, 2010
If you haven't tried your hand at a short story or a poem or a law memo, do it.

I haven't; I like poetry but I just hate to write when I HAVE to. If I don't have to write there's no stress for me and writing comes much quicker and more natural. But with school assignments professors aren't willing to work on students' schedules, unfortunately ;). Reading helps me grasp my ideas better too.
Richie  EssayChatDec 14, 2010
Why are you here?

I try to protect unsuspected students from scams, that's all ;)> But I can still be helpful with other stuff if needed.
Amon Giralda  

why are you here?

Dec 14, 2010
Like hiring someone to write for you?: :)

Richie: She was asking how she could be better at essay and research writing, possibly for writing others' papers and entering the industry. I replied with useful advice, you replied with trolling. Why are you here?
Richie  EssayChatDec 14, 2010
Of course there are many other tricks

Like hiring someone to write for you?: :)
Amon Giralda  

write.

Dec 14, 2010
What do you do to be a better writer, do you read anything specific? How shall I become a better essay/research writer? Is writing the only way of becoming a good writer?

Write.

Of course there are many other tricks, but writing is the #1 way to get better at writing. If you haven't tried your hand at a short story or a poem or a law memo, do it. Practice your craft and you'll discover weaknesses.

Aside from that, you do need to keep current with your field. You don't know what you don't know, and when you go into writing something, you'll find it hard to get caught up. If you're doing something in a new field, read an introductory paper, or look at syllabuses on the topic and see if the same article gets mentioned several times. If the same article keeps coming up, it's obviously very important. So keep reading.

There are numerous other tricks (read handbooks on composition, learn your basic fallacies and logical reasoning skills), but yes, writing really is the best way.
Meya  

working on becoming a better essay writer

Dec 14, 2010
Amon

What do you do to be a better writer, do you read anything specific? How shall I become a better essay/research writer? Is writing the only way of becoming a good writer?
Amon Giralda  

i've been very patient

Dec 14, 2010
You contradict yourself. Previously you said you're 'talking with students' - talking about what, how to cheat so that they are not caught? The more I read your posts the more I think the only thing you care about is money, not the law or students future.

I wouldn't want to go into the exact parameters of what I discuss with clients since that's against my confidentiality policy. Suffice it to say that I try to go beyond the disclaimer and make sure that they're learning from the papers I provide, that their writing skill improves, etc. I like to have a long-term relationship with clients for this very reason: I can see the effect my business has on their lives.

(That'd also be "students' futures").

You can think that if you'd like, but I've been more than cooperative on this forum for open abuse. Meanwhile, you don't talk to, say, writer233 or any of the other freelancers on this forum. Suffice it to say that you have no EVIDENCE for that inflammatory assertion, since to make it would require having concrete evidence of my actions which you don't have, and I am done being maligned by anonymous faces with nothing to lose. This is a forum to discuss essay work. If you don't like it, don't be here. I deliver a quality product, on time, deliver refunds when they are warranted, and work very hard. There are many other industries where they can't say that.
flex  EssayChatDec 14, 2010
They tell them not to with a disclaimer. That's about it.

You contradict yourself. Previously you said you're 'talking with students' - talking about what, how to cheat so that they are not caught? The more I read your posts the more I think the only thing you care about is money, not the law or students future.
Amon Giralda  

silly question

Dec 14, 2010
The question is, how do you discourage students from trying to submit your example essays as their own?

How does Target discourage people from getting high off of paint? They tell them not to with a disclaimer. That's about it.
flex  EssayChatDec 13, 2010
Amon Giralda

The question is, how do you discourage students from trying to submit your example essays as their own?
Amon Giralda  

legitimate?

Dec 13, 2010
Legitimate companies and writers clearly state they refuse working with students who are thinking of submitting the model essays as their own.

Why? If I paid for a paper off JStor and used that as a model or a source, that's legitimate. The ONLY thing that is the business of the college is if someone is submitting work that is not their own, and even still that is itself arguable.

I absolutely do care about both integrity and education. I speak extensively with students. As I note in my disclaimer, the essays are sample papers and for educational and entertainment purposes only. I also make sure to the best of my ability that my clients understand the logic of why I made the arguments I did, the sourcing and the logic behind that, etc. But even if I didn't, that doesn't make me "illegitimate". We provide a service for paying customers. I provide that service on time and on budget. Nothing else matters...
Richie  EssayChatDec 13, 2010
the Professor doesn't care if you paid or not for the article.

He does.

Still, it seems you don't care about students integrity and their education. Legitimate companies and writers clearly state they refuse working with students who are thinking of submitting the model essays as their own.
Amon Giralda  

not my point

Dec 13, 2010
But you can do it for free (ie. look up an article) : )

Yes, but the Professor doesn't care if you paid or not for the article.
Richie  EssayChatDec 13, 2010
But you can do it for free (ie. look up an article) : )

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