Essay Chat - page 82

Failed: It hit my spam filter :) . I've replied.

thanks

Thanks for your reply Amon - some good tips there.

Upon further review, though, I'm very wary of going with any large site now and would rather do things on a one-to-one basis. I emailed you at the address on your site last night, so drop me a line when you have the chance :)

well...

I think I'm legitimate, and have some good policies to guarantee this to the company ;) .

Some degree of trust will be required. If they can get you writing samples, FROM THE WRITER IN QUESTION, that look good, that's a good start. If the correspondence from the website looks professional, that's also good. If the website has bad writing, even if it has a professional veneer, that's a warning sign.

I'd just say make your deadline SUBSTANTIALLY before you get the paper. Show it to your Professor and make sure that it works for the class. Proofread it yourself. If it looks good, that's fine. You do have the problem that you don't know what you don't know, but at least this way you can make sure it looks good.

If it doesn't match their quality control promises, start a trackback on your order and demand a refund. It's worth the try, at least.

damn, just got scammed.

Ha, I am quite a tech-savvy person, but with deadlines and all, I guess I didn't take a thorough enough look into the company. Never done anything close to this before, and never even thought its a big enough industry to support such a huge netword of scammers. Depressed as hell, and out $90 now...guess it could be worse. :/

Problem now, is that I'm crazy paranoid of any site and/or person offering writing services, but I still need it done! :) EssayScam.org scared the #### out of me, and Google search/ads is what got me into this mess.

I guess my question is *how* can I find a legitimate service? Anyone?

just've seen...

What do you mean?

Some things that I find pretty amazing. That's all.

Problem is I'm getting tired of it, my eyes and head hurt too often. How to deal with that? Drop agencies or clients? I like agencies as I don't have to worry about marketing but working with clients is more rewarding (not only by dollar standards). Some companies allow to work directly with clients but many don't.

That's what I'd say. You could also send work to people.

i write for 6 essay agencies :)

Is there anyone else who has more freelance accounts? :) I do projects for some of my clients too.

Problem is I'm getting tired of it, my eyes and head hurt too often. How to deal with that? Drop agencies or clients? I like agencies as I don't have to worry about marketing but working with clients is more rewarding (not only by dollar standards). Some companies allow to work directly with clients but many don't.

"except..."

By except, I mean "ESPECIALLY". Wow, Freudian slip, huh? ;) I really am astonished by some of the confidentiality behavior in the industry.

joking, right?

Your business should be transparent if you don't want to be called a fraudulent writer ;).

This is a joke, right? Microsoft isn't a scam company, but they won't publish every detail of your customer transaction. Confidentiality is a key part of every business, except this one. I will never discuss any element of a customer service interaction barring outright fraud, legal need or customer permission.

clarification

It's generally not good etiquette to post things about a private business transaction in public. I'll answer your question in e-mail.

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

Good point..

If it's so hard to work independently why don't you join a 'big company' and not worry about the fine print ;).

Fine print is EXACTLY what you worry about with a middle-to-big sized company. Devil you know, really. At least PayPal is not likely to out-and-out screw me,.

Good customer service is not hard. It's staggering that it is so poorly done.

I also do take work from other companies as well, of course, but I'd prefer my business to get off the ground. I know that I am doing good work. I can't say the same for others.

yes...

That's fair enough, except billing is rather harder to fake or create anew (billing that doesn't charge surcharges). PayPal requires a unique bank account to a unique e-mail in general, for example. But changing my website or e-mail, since I give clients a consistent, actual NAME, would require losing a substantial amount of my word-of-mouth appeal. As a small company, I can't just create clients out of thin air the same way the big companies can, for the same reason you mention that they need to charge more.

I don't see what this has to do with my original argument, either ;) . It is in my best interest to provide good customer service if I want to keep clients coming in. It really is in the best interest of companies to do the same thing, Ukrainian or not.

In fact, it seems to me that a devastating customer service criticism, in terms of hurting my word-of-mouth, is FAR worse to me. Big companies always have the advantage that, no matter how much bad publicity they get, someone will have missed it or won't believe it and will get burnt by them. it can't last indefinitely, but it can last pretty long if you top off on a Google search. Right now, a negative review of me on EssayScam would be pretty highly ranked on my Google search list :) .

If they hire poor writers what can you expect? : )

Basic integrity? :D

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

Anyone could have a bad day, or a misunderstanding or miscommunication on any end.

Right, but for you to change a website or email (if you have angry clients) would take an hour; an established company cannot just change their website and start from scratch when a crazy client or competitor tries to discredit them online. That's why of the reasons companies must charge more (and frankly, considering their cost and liability their prices are on average very low compared to prices of individual freelance writers).

Take Essaywriters.net. Their reputation is non-existent, not because one or two people have a problem with them, but because dozens on one SITE do.

If they hire poor writers what can you expect? : )

bad publicity

What would you do if you have an angry client, there's no way of avoiding bad publicity ; ).

Ps. Learn to use the quote (first highlight the text and then click on the 'Quote' link).

What a clumsy quote system. Seems to me to lead to double posting far too often.

Anyways, this is a silly argument, as anyone who has done customer service can attest. Anyone could have a bad day, or a misunderstanding or miscommunication on any end. The point is to deal with the 90% of people who are no problem, then work with the 9% who have a complaint but are not unreasonable. The remaining 1% will speak for themselves based on the preponderance of the evidence the other way. Bad customer service misses out on the 9%, worse customer service misses out on the 90%.

Take Essaywriters.net. Their reputation is non-existent, not because one or two people have a problem with them, but because dozens on one SITE do.

I do my absolute best, turn in every contract on time as agreed, do editing up until the due date, etc., to get word of mouth promotion. When an angry customer inevitably posts to, say, EssayScam, I will deal with them respectfully and kindly. That's good business.

I'd say both may be good (even though I'm always confused about papermasters.com VS masterpapers.com, one is probably from Ukraine or something).

If the name is odd in some way, like a non-traditional syntax or order or conjunction, that's probably Ukrainian. Both of these sound okay, but Paper Masters is a little odd.

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

so whats about custompapepers.com and the other site i found papermasters.com whom should i trust more???

I'd say both may be good (even though I'm always confused about papermasters.com VS masterpapers.com, one is probably from Ukraine or something).

EssayChatDec 9, 2010

I'm a small business, I can't afford bad publicity.

What would you do if you have an angry client, there's no way of avoiding bad publicity ; ).

Ps. Learn to use the quote (first highlight the text and then click on the 'Quote' link).

as to who to trust...