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Grover  

re: educators divided on chatgpt

Mar 8, 2023
I know right. Teachers and professors seem to be the biggest violators of their own academic rule not to use the AI in class. They are using it everywhere from exam creation to writing letters of condolences to parents and students. Thereby proving that the AI does have a proper application in an academic setting. Specially when the teacher is lazy enough to not even want to try and develop a lesson plan or test questions anymore. Then they call us students cheaters. Who is the real cheater here? The one who uses the AI for academic improvement, or the one who is paid to know better than the AI?

It is important that we students stand up for our right to use the technology for our own ease of learning and grade advancement. While the school boards pretend to know better than we do, the truth is, they do not. They are just a bunch of old suits who cannot keep up with the evolving educational landscape around them.
Lamar Jericko  

questbridge applicants and ivy league universities

Mar 5, 2023
I just wanted the opinion of the students and parents here about something bothering me. I am going to be the first member of my family to graduate high school and (hopefully) attend college. The problem with my ambtion to attend college is that I am eyeing attending a university that could actually help me have a better future. Think along the lines of Harvard, Princeton, MIT, and other similar universities. I know that I have the grades to qualify for admission, but not the money to enroll and afford to live at these campuses. I was thinking of trying to enroll via the QuestBridge application channel, thinking that maybe I can snag a scholarship in the process.

My family members are not really receptive to the idea of me trying to gain admission into these rich kid schools but I refuse to be deterred from it. Do they make sense when they say that a black kid from a low income background has no chance of getting into these schools? That the universities will not even have a look at my documents all because I did not fit the mould? I thought that is what the QuestBridge thing was for. Can someone please shed some light on this for me? I would really appreciate it.
Harold  

re:study group - money funnel for my professor?

Mar 5, 2023
He is not the first teacher to actually form a fake study group. Teachers use that ploy to negotiate a financial payout to pass their failing students. They make it difficult to complete the task for the group, so that the parents will be forced to come forward and ask them "What do I have to do to get my kid to pass this class?" Then the negotiations begin. Let me be clear though, this only happens when a teacher is financially challenged. Not all teachers do this. Also, I believe this is a practice more common among private school students and parents. Public school parents tend to be as financially challenged as the teachers, who just pass the kid regardless of his actual class performance.

It is all up to you and the group members to turn what is a fake study group into a real one. Work on your lessons, learn the lessons, practice the tests, pass the class using a legitimate study group. Do not let your teacher or professor force you to do something a study group should not be doing.
LayLay  

re: educators divided on chatgpt

Mar 3, 2023
Educators are divided? I don't think so. From what I have read, the teachers, professors, even instructors have been sucked into the ChatGPT craze. They've been using it to create their lesson plans, homework instructions, and exam questions. What does that mean? That it is alright for lazy educators to use the AI but not the students? Now, would that be considered fair in any guise? I mean, the system helps teachers, so why can't they allow the same to help the students?

Oh, just to be clear, my professor was caught using ChatGPT for his exam creation. He is currently on preventive suspension while his case is investigated. Further showing that the teachers are liars. They are complaining just because the students are using it. It is alright to use it if you are not a student. No fair ! Teachers will eventually get caught using the AI and then we will see if there is any truth to their being divided by the use of ChatGPT by students. I still say, if teachers can use it, students should too !
Eleazar  

study group - money funnel for my professor?

Mar 3, 2023
So, I am not doing too well in one of my major classes in college. I've got a chance to pass, I am told by my professor, if I join a study group for under performing students in, you guessed it, the very class I am failing. Apparently he has lumped us all together as a "study group". The thing is, it is not really a study group in the sense of the phrase. Rather, it is a group of students who are destined to fail the class, so he is trying to get us to pass by giving us a group project to give us a reason for him to pass us. It's kind of like, all I have to do is participate in the group and do something just to say I helped with the project. In exchange, I will not fail the class. However, the "project" is more of a money funnel for our professor. We won't actually be creating a project or writing a paper, neither will we be studying and preparing for a "last chance exam". Basically, we buy what he tells us to, in exchange for a passing grade. Isn't that illegal? Should I go along with this "study group" or just drop the course and try to take it again next semester, hopefully under a different professor. Which way do you think I should go?
Ernestine  

re: how effective is quillbot?

Mar 2, 2023
Just like ChatGPT Quillbot has its good points and bad points. The good points would be that it allows you to edit your work for grammar errors, punctuation problems, and gives you a helping hand when it comes to discussion improvement. But only in terms of the actual presentation. Not because it does the research work for you. Personally, I use Quillbot only for editing my essays in the same way that Grammarly would. I would never rely on a reworded research paper or the like. AI does not have the ability to recognize inconsistencies in research presentations, citations, and source presentations. So I would not be comfortable using a paper revised by Quillbot. I still prefer to do my own research and writing. Stop being so lazy that you would rather have an AI revise an old paper rather than writing a new one yourself. If you cannot write the paper, then don't do the homework. If you hire someone else to write the paper for you then you might as well drop out of school.
Roper  

re: educators divided on chatgpt

Feb 25, 2023
There are some teachers who would rather go back to the old school way of proving a student's learning process rather than sticking to essays and research papers. I have read that some of them are now considering going back to oral recitation and exams, along with spot quizzes and testing on a paper and pen basis. I guess they figure that the only way to fight the technology is to not use the technology themselves and prevent the students from doing things that would allow them to access the program for their benefit. Hence the return to basic teaching and testing methods. In other words, ChatGPT has forced teachers to actually go back to the job of teaching as opposed to their previous reliance on long research papers that were not always written by the students. If there is one thing that ChatGPT has done, it is unite the teachers in finding a way to do their jobs the way they were supposed to. Now they really have to teach instead of passing off the task to reading materials and opinion or research papers.
Pedro  EssayChatFeb 24, 2023
So I was thinking, what if I purchase a model paper instead and then run the paper through Quillbot, then updating certain information / as needed instead?

Having used and continuing to use Quillbot myself based on model papers that I purchase(d) from academic writing banks, I would have to say that it works better than ChatGPT. The main difference, for me, lies in the way that the model paper actually has human insight into the topic that was written about and therefore, creates a human touch when it is paraphrased or re-presented in my paper. I can easily add my own knowledge and sources using Quillbot, something that ChatGPT users find difficult to do at this time. The monotone writing of that program is what makes it easy to spot. Specially since students tend to not review a ChatGPT written paper, which a Quillbot user is forced to do. Dare I say it? Easier and faster is not always the way to go when writing our term papers. ChatGPT is good as a model for content, but it is empty of actual and usable content. Buying a prewritten paper, then enhancing it to become one's own is far better and more cost effective than hiring an academic company or independent writer. That is what Quillbot is good at doing and that, is why I will always prefer to use it over a ChatGPT or any writing service available.
Lord Sussex  

re: earning losses for post pandemic graduates?

Feb 23, 2023
The world hit the reset button during the pandemic. World economies basically came to a screeching halt for a number of years and when it returned, the world was a totally different place. Education was never the same again. In fact, education seems to have lost its importance beyond elementary and high school levels since the students learned how to make an income, and basically learned how to code because of their free time. The ease by which they learned without the aid of teachers or a formal classroom setting during this time is what led to the rise of the less educated student, who makes more money than his educated counterparts. I think these are the reasons why earning losses became the norm for them once the markets reopened. There was no real need for businesses to hire college grads when high school students were coding killer apps and automation began taking over the fields of work where college graduates used to be given importance. All things considered, if you already have the cash to support your own business, then maybe do away with college and bust out on your own. Stop wasting time when you could already be making money for yourself. Stop funding these academic writing companies and independent writers who just want your money. They will just provide throw away work every single time anyway. Save your cash for yourself.
Miller  

how effective is quillbot?

Feb 22, 2023
Coming across essay writing companies that sell model papers, based on old and previously used student research submissions in their own classes, I began to wonder if I still need to hire an essay writing company or an independent writer. I have heard about the good work that Quillbot does when it comes to paraphrasing text, to the point where it can pass plagiarism checkers. So I was thinking, what if I purchase a model paper instead and then run the paper through Quillbot, then updating certain information / as needed instead? It would definitely save me from financial hardship since the writers and companies do tend to charge prices per page that would break the bank for me. All I want and need is a usable paper for my class anyway. If there is a cheaper way that I can do that, I should take it right? Do you think there would be any problems if I use Quillbot rather than ChatGPT to complete my paper? I heard that ChatGPT is having problems writing certain topics already so I think the model paper, ran through Quillbot would be the way to go?
Xiaomi  

re: educators divided on chatgpt

Feb 21, 2023
Hello from Hong Kong! I came across this chatroom as I was surfing around the web looking for a proficient academic researcher to partner with as I complete my college thesis. Yes, I need to write my thesis personally because our academic regulations are quite strict. It does not allow the student to even consider hiring an academic writer to complete the paper. Although we can have assistants when doing research. That is not against the rules, I think.

Anyway, I just came across an announcement that all academic levels in Hong Kong will be considering any ChatGPT (or its equivalent AI apps) developed paper to be on the same level as an academic plagiarism offense. The authorities have decided to treat the use of the program the same as any other academic offense, with the penalties being the same. These penalties range from a failing grade in the class or expulsion from the school or university. Eitherway, it is now perfectly legal for the teachers and professors in Hong Kong to use the AI writing software detection tools. Making it even more difficult for students to complete their papers in classes where a student might be doing poorly. So we cannot use academic writing companies and we cannot use AI to write the paper either. Students in Hong Kong have enough pressure as it is without these limitations in place.

Having read that news articles, which is easily searchable, it appears that the educators are slowly coming together with regards to how to deal with ChatGPT as an educational tool. They will not give it any credence, they will not allow students at any level to use it. It is considered academic dishonesty and a violation of the academic oath to do so. Several other international universities have already done this so I guess it is only a matter of time before the rest of the international education institutes follow suit.
Freida  

re: educators divided on chatgpt

Feb 20, 2023
While my school does not advocate the use of ChatGPT or its alternates, my teachers acknowledge that they will not be able to stop us from using the program. Afterall, it is there, it makes our academic lives easier, and it allows us to comply with our class paper requirements. Since there are no clear rules from the school board about how ChatGPT should be used in our classrooms, some of my teachers have decided to sleep with the enemy for now. Adjusting their teaching style to accomodate the new technology and the ease by which it allows us to comply with their homework requirements.

My teachers still ask us to complete written reports and research papers. The difference? Now they ask us to do an oral report and we have to respond to their suprise questions during the report. At any given time, the teacher can interrupt the report, and ask probing questions that were not included in the report we had given so far. It keeps us on our toes and forces us to still study the lesson because, who would want to get a lecture from the teacher about the way AI has been misused by students?

Other teachers have already purchased the ChatGPT detector software so they do not ask us to do oral reports or tests anymore. They just run the paper through the program and wait for the report. Use the AI at your own risk because they do give failing scores.

I think that this will be the situation for our schools for the foreseeable future. Teacher and professors are in unchartered territory here. They both do not know how to react to the emergence of the AI paper. Until clear rules are set into place for the use of the technology in the classroom, there will always be an educator divide in all school levels.
Corey  

earning losses for post pandemic graduates?

Feb 19, 2023
So, I have been busting my ass trying to get the best grades I can in college. Working on my papers without hiring any outside help or resorting to AI writers, and basically, doing all I can to ensure that I get a good job opportunity once I graduate. Then I read about how there will be at least 4 generations of college graduates, myself included, that will be faced with low entry level wages and a lack of salary increase for at least a decade after entering the workforce. Why then, am I working to get that college degree at this point? What is the use of writing all of these essays, doing these research papers, and preparing for my thesis and thesis defense?

Truth be told, I have been working part time and I have managed to save up a pretty nice account. It would allow me to invest in myself and pursue a bigger, more lucrative version of the current part time business I am running. College is something I am doing for my parents since I will be the first college graduate in our family. At this rate though, maybe I should focus on developing my wealth rather than meeting academic expectations instead? Let's talk. I'd love to hear your ideas. Open communication will help me decide what to do now that I am at a crossroad with my education and professional opportunities.
Alithea  

re: students should never work as middlemen for essay writing companies or freelancers

Feb 18, 2023
My story is a bit different. I started as the middleman for a freelancer. The money was good at the start, till his work started becoming problematic. He began to fall behind in terms of revising the papers of my classmates and friends, leading him to finally offer me an "editing" job to "speed up" the revision process. He offered good money to have me do this for him so I agreed to do it a few times for him. Next thing I knew, I was revising more and more papers for him, but getting paid less and less commissions because he claimed, "I am already paying to to revise the papers as needed". I do not know how it happened that I began working for him eventually, aside from getting him writing jobs. I quit having nay sort of relationship with that writer eventually. I could not study and fix his bad papers at the same time. It was not worth risking my own grades for. Work as the middleman only if you do not care about your future as a student. These types of people know how to turn the tables on their middlemen without them ever realizing it. Well, you will realize it eventually. I just hope it won't be too late for you by that time.
Tate  

re: students should never work as middlemen for essay writing companies or freelancers

Feb 17, 2023
Anybody here work for a freelance writer?

Yes, I have worked for a freelancer as his middleman. I was promised a 10% commission for each paper I referred to him, 20% for every repeat client from my referral. Everything was good at the start, I was aggressive in sending clients his way, even making sure that they chose him over other freelancers available online that they could speak to personally and interview. I used my word of honor to get him clients and I was amply paid for my hustling. At least I was paid well at the start. Then I found out from my schoolmates and classmates that he was already cutting me out of the deals, having them place their orders directly with him rather than passing through me so that I could have them use my referral code. I was livid when I found out what this freelance writer was doing. He was basically stealing from me, stealing my hard earned commission and disregarding the network I was instrumental in creating for him at my school. To get even, I destroyed his reputation with my classmates and made sure that they would never hire him again. Of course they took my side when I told them how this freelancer walked back on our deal. Fair is fair and my commission should have been paid.
WriterDun  

writing account opening

Feb 17, 2023
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Eleanor  

re: homeschooling is better than actual schooling?

Feb 15, 2023
There is only one strong reason that I would pull my kid out of regular schooling. There is only one reason why I might consider my child's request to pull him out of school in favor of home schooling. The only acceptable reason is if my child is being bullied to the extent that if affects him / her physically and mentally already. School bullying has come a long way since our days in school. We used to go home and have some respite since the bullies are left behind. Social media has changed all that. Our kids no longer have a safe space to go home to unless we create one for them. Home schooling is the best option in these cases. Some kids mature later than others. They need more time to learn how to deal with bullying. By homeschooling them, they get the time that they need to rest from the uncalled for hatred. They get better grades and have a happier time with their studies, together with other home schooled children on socialization days. I believe that the bullying reference I have made relates to the "wokeism" being done in school. Even the teachers can bully their students if the students prove to have a counter opinion. So yes, homeschool your child if you believe that is what will be best for his/her overall development.
Gladys  

re: essay mill and freelance writers problems on the rise?

Feb 14, 2023
The problems are not really on the rise, these are actually premanent problems in the industry that are just now coming to light. Since the internet gives students access to forums and chat rooms such as these, the students are now woke to the problems of hiring writing firms and academic writers without first looking into the background of the company or person. Blind hiring is something that used to happen a lot because there was no way of vetting the writers and the companies. There were no formal gathering places where the students could ask questions about writers and companies before. That has all changed. These days, the student can use these channels to hire the right company or writer for their needs. However, that has not eliminated the problem. Rather, it just highlighted the fact that students still have to learn how to properly protect themselves from scams online. By reading the content of these forums and chatrooms, they just might understand the writer hiring process.
Wingman  

re: students should never work as middlemen for essay writing companies or freelancers

Feb 12, 2023
I have had the essay referral job for the past 4 semester and I have to say, it does pay well. The only investment I have is lip service. Telling my classmates and dorm mates about the company and selling their services. As long as they use my referral code, they get a discount and I get 10% - 20% commission. It all depends upon the type of paper, its complexity, and the number of pages the writer has to complete. I actually earn far better than the writer per order in this case and all I had to do was tell my friends to "try the service". I may have lucked out and gotten attached to an honest essay writing company because I have never had any problems collecting my commission and my referrals have not encountered any problems with the company or its writers. I guess it all depends upon what company you will be referring. Not all companies are created equally therefore, not all referees are treated the same or have problem free experiences either. If you want an easy side hustle that will allow you earn without any effort, try out the referral side of essay writing. It pays off for most of us. I cannot say the same about people who refer independent writer's though. I know nothing about that side of the business. Anybody here work for a freelance writer?
Whitney  

essay mill and freelance writers problems on the rise?

Feb 11, 2023
I just finished reading several frightful threads in the forum section of EssayScam. These have made me worry about hiring a company based or independent writer anytime that I feel like I am in danger of failing my class. Whether it be to write a paper for me or to take a test for me, it appears that the only person who loses is me. Either I get blackmailed by these parties or, I am made to retake the test or defend myself during an academic inquiry. Neither of these scenarios actually appeal to me because my future could be ruined by my fear of failing the test.

Maybe these are one time cases. Maybe these represent a new trend. All I know is that there seems to be an increasing number of these cases being documented over at EssayScam. Whatever the reason for blackmailing, I cannot afford to pay for it so I guess I should just do my best to write the paper myself, regardless of the difficulty. I should also make sure that I do well enough in class to pass the course, even if I do not get a very high grade during the exams, which I plan to take personally from now on.

I am taking the discussions at the forum as a warning for me, as a student, to be more aware of the services I outsource to these companies and freelancers. I should never trust any of them, not even if I have already established a long standing working relationship with either of them during my course of study. It just isn't worth risking my future. I have a family that relies on me to graduate and work to help support them.
Chrissy  

re: students should never work as middlemen for essay writing companies or freelancers

Feb 10, 2023
I take it that you have been referring students to essay writing companies already then? Made quite a good profit huh? So you will not stop the practice? I guess not. Have you got any friends left at your university then? I had a roommate exactly like you during one of my previous semesters. He actually just attended enough classes to not be dropped by our professor and barely passed her tests. Not that it mattered because she was just using the classes are a business channel, being a middleman for the writing company. She was quite popular too. She was making enough money for herself that it did not matter if her allowance arrived late. She was covered. Later on, the company started delivering sloppy work and she was having to refund the student's fees out of her own pocket. She ended up losing more money than she actually made in the end. Needless to say, she eventually stopped playing the middleman role. She never did get the money she paid out back from the company even though they promised to refund the monies she had been advancing to the students. Towards the end, she was still highly popular on campus, but for all the wrong reasons. She was just lucky the university administrators did not kick her out when they found out what she was doing. A slap on the wrist and a signing a document indicating she was going to stop selling the services was all the punishment she received.
Laurie  

re: students should never work as middlemen for essay writing companies or freelancers

Feb 9, 2023
I must take offense at anyone who tries to dictate my actions or decisions without even knowing who I am or how I think. What makes this person believe that considering the role of a middleman would be a bad idea? If anything, the middleman would be the least gulty in the scenario because all a middleman does is make a referral, nothing more. I see nothing wrong with making a few bucks from such a practice. When I do the referral I do it with innocence. It is to me, a victimless crime since I committed no crime.

I do not believe academic dishonesty is even a real offense that would have long range effects on my future. The problem is that the student took my word for it when he decided to hire the writer or company without actually looking into the background of either. All I have to tell the schoolmate is "They did a good job for me. Use my promocode to get a discount if you decide to hire them." Nothing wrong with that. Do not make too much out of the job offer, it isn't a major crime to make a suggestion that will help a fellow student.
Teri  

re: homeschooling is better than actual schooling?

Feb 8, 2023
It may not be right to pull out any kid who is already used to a formal schooling system to suddenly be placed in a homeschool scenario. These children are already used to learning in a certain way, surrounded by classmates, friends, and teachers. The way that lessons are taught in the classroom, and even remotely, are far different from the homeschool method. It would require a tremendous adjustment on your part, since you will then have to take over the role of teacher, guidance counselor, gym instructor, exam proctor, and everything in between. While it will be difficult for the student to adjust, it will be an even bigger adjustment and demand on your time as you become the home teacher for your kid.

I do not think that merely being afraid of the way that children are taught in schools these days is enough reason to keep them at home. As a parent, it is up to you to counter the public school teaching system through your own home training. Your own beliefs and family culture / traditions should counteract anything the schools try to indoctrinate into the student. If anything, you will end up having healthy discussions with your kids about their views on topics taught at school. Remember that you are raising an individual who should have the freedom to believe in what he or she wants to. Your job, as the parent, is to make sure they make an informed decision, based on 2 opposing views.
Maiko  

students should never work as middlemen for essay writing companies or freelancers

Feb 6, 2023
I need a bunch of aggressive students who can work as middlemen

This is the latest message that I read in this chatroom regarding potential side work for students. It is important that students do not engage in these sorts of activities while in school. While the cut of the profits you will be getting may sound too difficult to turn down, the students should consider the academic consequence of such undertakings.

When one considers that a students signs an academic honesty oath / contract with their school / university upon enrollment, that agreement clearly indicates they will not cheat or help other students cheat. Entering into a middleman deal such as this would already be a violation of that binding academic contract.

If the deal with the essay company goes south, the middleman student will be caught in the middle alright. Guess who the student they refererred to the service will report to the authorities should the need to do so come up (in the case of difficult refunds)? Exactly, the middleman, the student who referred the service and made money from the deal. What will follow will be an academic trial nightmare for the student middleman, leading to a ruined future. So no, I do not believe students should work for these companies. They will end up taking the hit when the time comes.

Students considering this offer should not consider the quick cash it will bring. He should think of the long term consequences of doing so if caught engaging in the practice. His future will be ruined just because he was enticed by easy money.
Jolie  

educators divided on chatgpt

Feb 5, 2023
Yup. Professors and teachers know that students are extensively using ChatGPT and its equivalents for their written homework. In my university, the academicians are divided on the issue. There are those that support the use of the AI, provded the correct edits are done prior to submission, and there are professors that are so old school, they want the AI banned from being used even in the privacy of the student's own home.

I am surprised when I have a professor who encourages the use of the AI within specific parameters. He has specific editing instructions to make the AI generated paper more useful for us. He told us that when used properly, these AI programs can actually help us learn. The learning part comes from having to insert citations and reading the paper to remove repetitive content. We actually have to read the paper. Something that, my professor openly said, students do not do when we pay a writer to do the paper for us. He believes, along with some of our other teachers, that ChatGPT and the others have the potential to be an assistive educational tool. So they are learning how to use it to their benefit as educators. They are feeling the waters but I believe they are on the right track.

Our professors who are fighting the technology are insisting that the system helps us cheat and plagiarize. They claim it is just an automated academic writer and should be banned. I say they do not understand the system so they are fighting it. Eventually, those professors will be forcibly retired I guess. Owing to how the younger professors are fighting to keep ChatGPT and its alternates active as a teaching tool. They are convinced there is room for the technology in the classroom.
Samantha  

homeschooling is better than actual schooling?

Feb 3, 2023
With all of the confusion facing the American educational system, I am starting to rethink the benefits of sending my child to public school. The government has poked one too many fingers into the school curriculum in my opinion. My son and daughter are no longer being educated, they are being indoctrinated into changing our society, and not for the better. My concerns with how well they are truly being educated became even stronger when my son could not even tell me who John Wilkes Booth was, but he could tell me the story of Roe V. Wade and why overturning it regressed society as we know it. That is not the kind of education I want for them. I feel like the only option for getting my kids a real education these days would be to homeschool them so that they can have an actual chance of performing like a logical adult in the future. They may be starting too late being adolescents already, but I feel like I have no choice. Do you think I will be doing the right thing? I have seen the homeschooled kids of my cousin and they seem to be well adjusted and mature for their ages. That is all I want for my children too.
Tyrelle  

re: should i encourage my child to use chatgpt or its equivalents?

Feb 2, 2023
Yes. I believe that you should encourage your child to use ChatGPT as a learning tool. As parents, we spend more than enough on after school learning methods for our children. From Kumon to tutoring, our kids seem to spend more time studying in and out of school than they do resting. Even their weekends are already dedicated to studying. So if there is a tool out there that can help them learn how to do things easily, if there is a method by which they can accomplish tasks while learning something, if that method will not break the bank, then I say, GO FOR IT !

As parents we also need to lookout for the mental health of our children. When learning stops being fun for them we end up with academic rebels. My kids are enjoying using ChatGPT at home. It helps free up my time from tutoring them or having to hire someone to teach them. They seem to get a kick out of using the system and then teasing each other trying to get the funniest answer out of the system. Whatever it is they are doing on the system, it makes them keen to do their homework when they get home. What used to take 4 hours to encourage them to do now takes no time at all. Encourage it's use as a learning tool at home and save yourself the bother and a bundle. Do not get me wrong though. I would never encourage the use of the AI while at school. That is what teachers are for.
Dershowitz  

should i encourage my child to use chatgpt or its equivalents?

Jan 31, 2023
My son is in high school and is slowly being introduced to written homework assignments like properly formatted essays, creative writing, and research papers. As an early learner, he struggled to learn how to write in Cursive. Yes, my child goes to a private school that still teaches handwriting. The way he struggled to learn Cursive is nothing compared to the problems he has encountered when dealing with his written homework.

Even in gradeschool he did not find it easy to write about "What I Did During the Summer" or "Who Do I Admire?" I often had to jump in and write those papers for him after talking to him about the homework. He began to try his hand at writing recently and really wrote the most horrible papers I have ever read. Yet, as a supportive parent, I knew he would not pass his paperwork grades at the rate he was going.

His father came home one night and asked me if I had heard about ChatGPT. He explained to me that one of his co-workers had a child who also struggled to write (they are in the same grade level but different schools) and they tried the free writing software on the advice of the child's writing tutor. His co-worker claimed that it worked wonders and the child is now writing homework based on that writing assistant. I told him we could give it a shot. We had nothing to lose anyway, our kid had the worst grades in creative writing and history, which were all text based assignments and paperwork.

Our child used the system a few times and really got into the writing thing. I would say his writing has remarkably improved since he began using the program. We always caution him to just get inspiration, but not use the AI created text in class. His grades have improved since he began doing that. I should be happy right? But I feel the opposite.

I feel like I am allowing my child to cheat the system by accomplishing his paperwork this way. I have read that schools have banned the use of ChatGPT in class and someone even developed a ChatGPT detector to help teachers find AI written papers. So my question is, should I continue to let my child use the system, which is proving to be helpful to him or, should I stop him because the educators frown upon it?
Clancy  

re: ai writing software: the solution to academic and independent writer hiring problems?

Jan 30, 2023
I have gone almost a full semester without hiring an academic writing company or freelancer. The reason? The ChatGPT system actually helped me save thousands this semester by properly assisting me in developing my class papers. It definitely gave me a boost to see the model essays that the system could develop. It even helped me with finding information online for integration into my work.

Basically, I spent some time developing the paper that the AI developed, without plagiarism worries. I have to say, I never enjoyed working on school papers so much during my time in college. It actually made me appreciate the extra reading I had to do to complete the homework, research paper, even a simple opinion paper became a source of entertainment for me.

I think my professor knows that some of us are using the platform but has decided to turn a blind eye to it. He mentioned how some of us had improved our written work almost overnight, then he referenced the program. He ended with ""Whatever works!", which leads me to believe he appreciates that we are now putting an effort into completing the written work as opposed to the obvious writer for hire papers he normally receives.
Morgana  

re: labor based grading

Jan 28, 2023
As a parent of an under achiever, I can tell you guys that Labor Based Grading for my high schooler has come in very handy. Though my child is not a Special Needs student, I will admit that he has had his share of learning disabilities. He tends to lag behind in class because he learns slower than the others. It is not that he is not trying, he just doesn't learn at the same pace as the rest of the class. His teachers tend to give him extra work just to help him meet test requirements. They also consider his attempts at class recitation, and the fact that he is a dutiful student who is always on time and never absent. If not for his under performance in tests, he would have been the exemplary student in his problem classes. The teachers give him extra "labor" work to boost his scores and also, give them a valid reason for passing him in class. It is all part of the No Child Left Behind policy I guess. Whatever the reason, Labor Based Grading has its benefits and should be more widely promoted across the school levels.


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